Popping in to let you know that you have been tagged.

Amen. We are and will be in special prayer both Nov. 2 (Sunday) and Nov. 3.

sjp: I will post on it and quote you on it at the top of my sidebar to keep it on the reader's minds. Good looking out.

@ Renee, oh my! LOL... will do!

@ Revvy Rev, Amen! and Amen! As MLK said "we have some difficult days ahead". But we know when two or more are gathered in His Name mountains will be moved!

@ MacDaddy, Much obliged!

I will join you also...I'll add a sidebar post as well...

You know that I believe in PUSHING!

So I am definitely in on this one.

I'm in...

Much obliged Marva, Ms Lady Deborah, and Blog Queen for joining in this effort. Things are heating up!

How can you be praying for a man who pushes for the continued genocide of Black babies by abortion, and even pushed very hard in the Illinois Senate to kill by neglect and denial of medical care those babies who are born alive after surviving attempted abortions? I will never understand so-called Christians who support people who promise to continue the child-killing in this country--especially when Black babies are killed at FIVE TIMES the rate that white babies are! Shame, shame, shame!

@ Kathryn, you are always welcomed here at SjP's as my doors are always open. When coming here and when commenting, however, you must respect the "mistress of this place" and my visitors. If you are unable to do so, I will not be offended if you elect not to return or comment.

Now, having said that, first let me invited you to pray with us on November 3 for the civility of our citizenry and for the safety of our presidential candidates. And finally, from one so-called Christian to another so-called Christian, "judge not lest you be judge". So saith our Lord.

@ Dena, much obliged! very much obliged! You provide a side of the pro-choice issue that is often untold but no less real. To have a child or not have a child is a choice that women having been making for - as you say - centuries. And regardless of their choice, far too many have died as a result. The bottomline, here, is that the choice must still be made deep in the privacy of the mother's heart and soul.

At the commenters request, the last name was removed.

Dena said...
This is for Kathryn. I came of age during the days of illegal abortions. When I was 13 one of my friends got pregnant and had to drop out of junior high and get married. She was a mill worker's daughter. When I was 16, one of my friends got pregnant and was flown to New York City for an abortion. She was a banker's daughter. My father worked as an anesthetist. One day he came home and told us how a prominent doctor's wife had undergone a d&c that day to "bring on her period." The next year he was very upset when a 23 year old girl died on the operating room table from septic shock due to a botched abortion. My point is that abortion, sin or not, is a fact of life, and has been for centuries. Illegal abortion kills not only a fetus, but sometimes a woman, as well. I think we act more in the spirit of Christ by keeping abortion safe and legal, while offering more support to pregnant mothers, and easier adoptions to childless couples, so that abortion becomes a less attractive choice.

Originally posted on October 28, 2008 5:26 PM

I agree with Kathryn. We all know the scripture that says 'judge not lest ye be judged'; yet we always seem to forget that John 7:24 says we must "judge with righteous judgment.”

Having said that, The African-American side of me is proud that a Black man has a chance to become President. However, God's word supercedes and is far above what i want or my feelings. It amazes me at how so many Chirstians are ignoring God's word. I believe that God is orchestrating a mass exposing of Christians in America; that He is initiating mass testing to see who loves him. Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments.

When it comes to abortion God doesn't have to specifically talk about it in order for us to know where He stands on the issue of life. Senator Obama is pro-choice. He also voted 4 times against the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" (BAIPA) while he was an Illinois Senator. Basically the bill said that any child surviving a botched abortion should receive medical treatment to keep the infant alive (Go to this link to see how he voted and read his explanations for his no votes http://www.wrtl.org/pac_ecard/pac_ecard_documentation1.aspx - or ecard documentation - Wisconsin right to life website). The bible has many verses about life and the unborn. For instance:

Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now CHOOSE life, so that you and your children may live

Jeremiah 20:17
For he did not kill me in the womb, with my mother as my grave, her womb enlarged forever.

Leviticus 17:11
For the life of a creature is in the blood,

Isaiah 66:9
Do I bring to the moment of birth and not give delivery?" says the LORD. "Do I close up the womb when I bring to delivery?" says your God.

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;

Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

Psalm 139:13
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.

Ecclesiastes 11:5
As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things.

When we commit our lives to Christ, we follow his teachings 100%. I'm not saying we are perfect for we all fall short now and again. Senator Obama says he is Christian, a follower of Christ. John 14:21 says
"Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me".

God says He 'watches over His word' in Jeremiah 1:12.

On the subject of salvation and going to heaven Senator Obama says his grandmother is in heaven because she was 'kind, decent and generous'(link is his own words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVmNPY8-0kk)

He was also quoted in an interview he gave to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani saying: "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition," Obama told Falsani. "I believe there are MANY Paths to the same place"... This completely contradicts what Jesus says in John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I AM the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except through me".

The Senator also said that the Sermon on the Mount was radical, the book of Leviticus suggests that slavery was okay and Deuteronomy promoted stoning children (go to this link to hear it in his own words: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNXqZGDYWc)

These statements from Senator Obama contradicts the Word of God.
Galatians 1:8 says
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel OTHER THAN THE ONE WE PREACHED to you, let him be eternally condemned! I didn't say it, God did.

How can we as Christians push God's word aside becasue we want to see an African-American in the White House? There is no race creed, color, doctrine or desire that should take precedence over God's words, ever. If there is then it is a form of idolatry. You don't have to worship an image for it to be idolatry. Anything we value above His word is. Remember, God is a jealous God; He will have no other gods before Him.

Even Louis Farrakhan went so far as to say that Senator Obama is "the Messiah speaking"!(link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs) It's one thing for the Minister to say He is an instrument of God, but to say he is the Chirst is downright blasphemous.

What could we possibly say to God on the last day if He asks 'why did you vote for someone who clearly went against My word'? I wanted change? I wanted a Black President? How can we say we love God's word and not keep it? How can we worship in truth?

Finally King Solomon says in Ecclesiastes 12:13
"Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man".

@ The Word Keeper, much obliged for stopping by SjP's. Please don't be a stranger as the doors are always open here.

Based on the Biblical texts provided in your commentary, it appears that your litmus test for selecting who to cast your vote for any political office is whether that candidate is pro-life. Obviously, and if that is true, your decision to do so is not a function of race but a function that his/her stance on this issue is in keeping with yours. I admire your conviction to, therefore, support the candidate of your choice because of the issues and not the color of his/her skin.

If, I am correct, then I can only assume that you have never cast your vote for a candidate who is pro-choice and therefore you should certainly not do so now given your stance on this issue.

But, all this talk about Obama being the Messiah or even the Anti-Christ is truly bizarre to me. Barack Obama is a man and only a man. A man who I pray if elected POTUS will seek God's wisdom and guidance in governing this Country. Of course, I also pray that if he is not elected POTUS that John McCain will do likewise.

As far as voting for a pro-choice candidate in the past; i have. I voted for President Bill Clinton, twice. At the time my criteria for voting for President Clinton was he looked and sounded good. He wore sunglasses and played the saxophone. I couldn't have cared less if he was pro-choice or pro-life. I had no idea where he stood on any of the issues. Any and all information i had about him was what i heard on tv; and the media loved him. I didn't do one iota of research on his background.

Though i have been a Christian for over twenty years the roots of my faith wasn't very deep for many years. I was in such a back slidden state i looked like Michael Jackson doing the moon walk on ice skates. As Christ says about casting seeds and some fell on hard places, some on fertile ground. Every since i lost my entire family, Mother and Father, my Sister killed in a carjacking in Detroit, i have decided (it took years to get over it) that i would surrender my life to God and serve Him as best i could.

You can call it a litmus test if you like but obeying God and doing His will is my goal. My life is governed by His word. I will be pro-life as long as those scriptures i listed are alive. I will not deviate, turn to the left or right. As i stated in my other blog. There should be nothing that is placed over the word of God if you are a Christian; be it man or doctrine His will and His word is always first no matter what.

Being pro-life is a game changer for me. Even if Senator Obama was pro-life; the other statements he made about the bible still would be a major issue with me. My only hope is that my sisters and brothers in Chirst; blood bought, born again saints would know what God's word says before they pull that lever for either candidate on November 4.

God bless you and family and thank you so much for honoring me with a response to my blog.

Your servant
-Nate thewordkeeper

@ The Word Keeper, for me the issue is not pro-life or pro-choice but rather pro-privacy. I do not believe that government has the right to invade the privacy of its citizens in this matter.

But,having said that, there is solice in knowing that if my biological clock was still ticking or if one of my daughters were the victims of rape or incest that we would have the ability to make choice if a pregnancy resulted. I am appalled by a recent report that a young girl gave birth at the age of 10 as a result of being raped by her step-father or the report of a 12 year old habitual runaway who is also pregnant. Would or should abortion be the answer for these children - I don't know, but I know they are children and they obviously have no one to provide them with the support and guidance they need. Certainly these cases are extreme and hopefully atypical - but they exist nontheless. And what is to come of the babies born to these children? Will they be given the care and support needed to be productive members of society? Will our policies on health care, education, and services allow them to reach for the American dream?

It is my belief that the next POTUS must be the individual who understands that you can't pull yourself up from your bootstraps if you have no bootstraps to pull up. I believe that the next POTUS must be an individual who understands that there is no honor in war - and particularly one that is fought for selfish reasons. I believe that the next POTUS must be an individual who recognizes that there is something wrong when our seniors have to make a decision as to whether to buy the food they need to live or buy the medication they need to live. I believe the next POTUS must be an individual who recognizes that the need for education and that NO American child should EVER be left behind regardless of where that child goes to school.

Believe me, my support for Barack Obama did not come easily. It did not come because he's Black. If Barack Obama was against the right to privacy, I would still support him because I would gladly give up that right to ensure that my children could live in a better America. My decision-making process to support him has been not changed for nearly 40 years. It is a process of learning what the candidates' stances are on issues that impact me, that are of interest to me, and then praying on it. As such, my prayers did not lead me to vote for anyone other than Obama.

God bless you and yours also. And please don't be a stranger.

Thank you. I will return after the election. My goal was to reveal these scriptures to people who may never have read them. All who have read them are now aware.

From what i understand both Senator Obama and Governor Palin are both born again Christians. People are praying and fasting on both sides for victory. Whom will God choose to represent Him? We shall see.

Sarah Palin said whether it is Senator Mccain or Senator Obama God's will will be done. I think we all can agree with her.

Deuteronomy 5:32
"So be careful to do what the LORD your God has commanded you; do not turn aside to the right or to the left".

God BLess
Nate thewordkeeper

@ The Word Keeper, will see you after the election (smile). Much obliged for sharing the Word of our Lord in this place.

While, I am hopeful that Senator Obama is elected on Tuesday I am praying that God's will be done on Tuesday and that Americans accept His Will and Move Forward.

Please add a #5:
The results of the election will lead the US and all nations towards the cessation of all war and initiate a new era of effective international diplomacy focused on effective global collaboration towards solving for human starvation and disease, as well as clean air, water, energy, and environment protections and restorations.